the mormons are the most divisive of any religion. host: it brings up religion, race, and partisanship. guest: let's talk about partisanship in congress. frustration and the problem is that he faces a divisive republican congress. he faced that even when they had a democratic majority. that was exacerbated with republicans getting control of the house in 2010. they have a stalemate. if mitt romney were president, my guess would be that we would have a republican house and possibly a republican senate. you might have a different circumstance with one party in control. then the republicans could adopt their agenda. right now, obama can of a debt -- about his agenda with republicans in the house. >> good morning, the president has spent at least $60 billion and education which is more than the federal government spends. do you think this might be a reaction to our public education tex ? guest: that is one of the flash point is politics these days. it is about what we do a teacher salaries and teacher pensions often at the state level and